Former Rep. Gabby Giffords, President Trump, Rep. Mark Finchem.

Episode 51: Things get real

This week, Trump's shutdown over a border wall, Rep. Finchem's efforts to stop teachers from expressing their opinions, and a discussion on the Jan. 8 shooting and gun control gets real serious, real fast.

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