NEW ORLEANS — The Southern Baptist Convention refused to welcome Saddleback Church back into its fold, rejecting the California megachurch's appeal over its February ouster for having women pastors.
Southern Baptist church representatives at their annual meeting also rejected a similar appeal by a smaller church, Fern Creek Baptist of Louisville, Kentucky, which is led by a woman pastor.
The results of the Tuesday votes were announced here Wednesday morning, the concluding day of the two-day annual meeting of the nation's largest Protestant denomination, whose statement of faith asserts that only qualified men can serve as pastors.
Delegates hold up their ballots Tuesday at the Southern Baptist Convention at the New Orleans Ernest N. Morial Convention Center in New Orleans.
The convention hall packed with about 12,000 Southern Baptists was quiet after the announcement, appearing to have listened to SBC President Bart Barber's earlier urging for them to show restraint.
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"I know sometimes there are churches where people wind up in biblical divorce," he said. "But we don't throw divorce parties at church. And whatever these results are, I'm asking you, behave like Christians."
Saddleback was the denomination's second-largest congregation and widely touted as a success story amid larger Southern Baptist membership declines.
With the 9,437-1,212 vote, delegates — known as messengers — rejected an appeal by Rick Warren, the retired founding pastor of Saddleback and author of the best-selling "The Purpose Driven Life." Warren had urged Baptists to agree to disagree "in order to share a common mission."
"Messengers voted for conformity and uniformity rather than unity. The only way you will have unity is to love diversity. We made this effort knowing we were not going to win," he said at a news conference after the results were announced.
Rick Warren, founding pastor of Saddleback Church in Southern California, speaks during a news conference Wednesday in New Orleans.
Church representatives also voted 9,700-806 to deny an appeal by Fern Creek Baptist Church, which has had a woman pastor for three decades but came under heightened scrutiny this year.
"I knew they would uphold the expulsion. However, I guess I am a bit naive. I did not think it would be that drastic a result. I thought there were more people left in the Southern Baptist Convention who support the autonomy of the local church, if not women in ministry," said the Rev. Linda Barnes Popham, Fern Creek's pastor.
All Baptist churches are independent, so the convention can't tell them what to do. However, it can decide which churches are "not in friendly cooperation," the official verbiage for an expulsion.
In February, the SBC's Executive Committee voted to oust the two congregations, along with three others that chose not to appeal, for having women pastors.
Warren and Barnes Popham made their final appeals to Southern Baptists on Tuesday during the annual meeting.
Dr. Albert Mohler speaks Tuesday at the Southern Baptist Convention in New Orleans.
Albert Mohler, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, spoke on behalf of the Executive Committee in calling for the ouster of Saddleback and Fern Creek, saying it's a matter of biblical authority.
"The issues were clear, and the messengers were clearly united. … There was no rancor," he said Wednesday after the results were announced. "This was a real defining moment, and making certain that those doctrines that must be common among us be publicly acknowledged."
For years, questions about women's ministry roles caused turmoil in the SBC. On Wednesday, the messengers pressed to make those roles more clear by voting to amend the convention's constitution to specify that Southern Baptists churches must "affirm, appoint or employ only men as any kind of pastor or elder as qualified by Scripture." To go into effect, it needs to be approved at the next annual meeting.
Sarah Clatworthy, member of Lifepoint Baptist Church in San Angelo, Texas, advocated for the amendment, calling on the SBC "to shut the door to feminism and liberalism."
"In a culture that is unclear about the role of men and women, we have to be crystal clear," she said. "We should leave no room for our daughters or granddaughters to have confusion on where the SBC stands."
Linda Barnes Popham speaks Tuesday at the Southern Baptist Convention in New Orleans.
Following the results, Warren issued a critique of the direction of the SBC.
"There are people who want to take the SBC back to the 1950s when white men ruled supreme and when the woman's place was in the home. There are others who want to take it back 500 years to the time of the Reformation," he said. "I say we need to take the church back to the first century. The church at its birth was the church at its best."
As for Fern Creek, Barnes Popham said she doesn't know whether the church will join a new denomination or remain independent, but "I also believe God has great things for Fern Creek Baptist."
The church now faces a possible expulsion from the Kentucky Baptist Convention, the SBC's state affiliate.
Messengers also addressed sexual abuse issues Wednesday, including upholding the expulsion of Freedom Baptist Church in Florida over its alleged mishandling of a sexual misconduct allegation.
They voted to give a task force in charge of implementing abuse reforms more time to work.
Marshall Blalock, pastor of First Baptist Church in Charleston, South Carolina, who leads the task force, announced the creation of a new website that contains the messenger-mandated database of pastors and church workers credibly accused of sex abuse as well as resources for congregations. He said such tracking is necessary because sexual abuse is underreported.
Photos: Psychedelic churches push boundaries of religion
Lorenzo Gonzales, center, and other retreat participants reach their hands to the sky during a breathwork ceremony on Saturday, Oct. 15, 2022, in Hildale, Utah. The session was a part of a three-night ayahuasca ceremony hosted by Hummingbird Church. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
The moon shines over a large tent housing about two dozen individuals partaking in an ayahuasca ceremony, on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022, in Hildale, Utah. Hummingbird Church, which hosted the weekend ayahuasca retreat, is part of a growing global trend in which people are turning to ayahuasca to treat an array of health problems after conventional medications and therapy failed them. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
An empty pitcher and shot sized cups sit on an altar during an ayahuasca ceremony hosted by Hummingbird Church in Hildale, Utah, on Friday, Oct. 14, 2022. Ayahuasca is a psychoactive brew that contains an Amazon shrub with the active ingredient, DMT, and a vine containing monoamine oxidase inhibitors that prevents the drug from breaking down in the body causing visions lasting several hours. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Talia Gross, a retreat participant, plays a sound bowl while waiting for the ayahuasca ceremony to begin at a Hummingbird Church retreat in Hildale, Utah, on Friday, Oct. 14, 2022. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Hummingbird Church hosts an ayahuasca retreat in the small town of Hildale, Utah, just south of Zion National Park, on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022. The town was previously known as the stronghold for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a polygamist offshoot of the Mormon church. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Diwaldo and Mileidys Salado hold hands during a breathwork session at Hummingbird Church's ayahuasca retreat in Hildale, Utah, on Saturday, Oct. 15, 2022. Some sobbed uncontrollably during the session, which included rhythmic exhaling and inhaling set to a feel-good soundtrack that included "You Raise Me Up" by Josh Groban. They finished with a group scream. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Michael Vasconez, a facilitator with Hummingbird Church, blows a sacred tobacco snuff used by shaman in Brazil and Peru into his nose, while leading an integration circle on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022, in Hildale, Utah. Following each of the three ayahuasca ceremonies, Hummingbird Church asks their participants to partake in integration, or a group reflection and discussion, to help interpret messages they received from the ayahuasca. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Maeleene Jessop, a former member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a polygamist offshoot of the Mormon church, second from left, talks with her fellow participants before the third and final ayahuasca ceremony during a retreat hosted by the Hummingbird Church, in Hildale, Utah, on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022. Hummingbird is part of a growing global trend in which people are turning to ayahuasca to treat an array of health problems after conventional medications and therapy failed them. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski).
Colombian shaman Taita Pedro Davila, leads an ayahuasca ceremony with Hummingbird Church, in Hildale, Utah, on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022. Following the traditions of his grandfather in Colombia, Davila prays, chants, and sings in Spanish and the language of the Kamëntsá people over the psychoactive brew before serving it to individual participants. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Diwaldo Salado, a retreat participant, sits on an air mattress during a breathwork session before the beginning of a Hummingbird Church ayahuasca ceremony, on Friday, Oct. 14, 2022, in Hildale, Utah. A rising demand for ayahuasca has spurred the formation of hundreds of groups like Hummingbird across the U.S. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Talia Goss, a retreat participant, shows a drawing of a vision she had during an ayahuasca ceremony in Hildale, Utah, hosted by the Hummingbird Church on Monday, Oct. 17, 2022. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
A Hummingbird Church retreat participant lays in a hammock while an integration circle takes place on the grass behind him, discussing the previous night's ayahuasca ceremony, in Hildale, Utah, on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Maeleene Jessop lies face down on the grass during an integration circle at an ayahuasca retreat in Hildale, Utah, on Saturday, Oct. 15, 2022. Following each of the three ayahuasca ceremonies, Hummingbird Church asks their participants to partake in integration, or a group reflection and discussion, to help interpret messages they received from the ayahuasca. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Lorenzo Gonzales, center, cries as he shares parts of his ayahuasca experience during an integration circle on the third day of a Hummingbird Church retreat, in Hildale, Utah, on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022. Gonzales and his wife decided to try ayahuasca in hopes that it would help cure his physical and mental ailments. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Participants lay face down on the grass during an integration circle at an ayahuasca retreat in Hildale, Utah, on Saturday, Oct. 15, 2022. Following each of the three ayahuasca ceremonies, Hummingbird Church asks their participants to partake in integration, or a group reflection and discussion, to help interpret messages they received from the ayahuasca. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
The Hummingbird Church hosts an ayahuasca ceremony next to a cemetery where infants of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a polygamist offshoot of the Mormon church, were buried, in Hildale, Utah, on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022. A handful of former FLDS members attended the ceremony to help heal and understand past trauma. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
Eloy Delgadillo, musician and facilitator for Hummingbird Church, practices songs for an upcoming ayahuasca ceremony, on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022, in Hildale, Utah. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)
A statue of Mother Earth sits at the front of an altar used by a Colombian shaman, healer and traditional medicine man who leads the Hummingbird Church ayahuasca ceremonies, on Sunday, Oct. 16, 2022, in Hildale, Utah. Like many groups using psychedelics as sacraments, Hummingbird functioned underground for many years, hosting word of mouth ceremonies. But in Feb. 2021, they decided to go public. (AP Photo/Jessie Wardarski)

